> What is wrong with the well populated #lua ?
> A fork from seems pointless...
Some people feel that #lua contains too much general, off-topic
discussion. I try to only bring up non-lua-related stuff when nothing
is happening in #lua -- regulars know regulars and we talk, but people
still get annoyed. I welcome this, now people can't complain about
conversation graffiti in #lua :p
## Some background
I'm connected to the #lua channel for the last 5 years, actually got a lot of excellent support along my way learning Lua. It used to be an awesome IRC channel. Then suddenly a few people decided to "fill the vacuum" with off-topic (check the unofficial logs: http://mniip.com/irc/log/?channel=~lua). I reached #freenode staff because there is no OP doing moderation in #lua, they told me staff has not time to micromanage IRC channels and my only chance was to try to reach the other channel operators. Got to reach MachinShin who banned: onr, one of the worst trolls that #lua had ever. Unfortunately some vacuum filler (not all of them) disagreed with MachinShin and started to troll me.
## How lua-support born
I reached #freenode staff again, but they told me that they can't override the operators, and that last 2 options were: 1) reach ventonegro, the founder of the channel, 2) fork and create my very own (which I did already). It looks like ventonegro has not connected for a long time so pick option 2.
Well... mbalmer joined #lua-support to monitor and to say "hello":
[11:20:11] --> mbalmer (~email@example.com) has joined #lua-support
[14:40:29] <mbalmer> develCuy, let the things develop a bit..
[15:05:58] <mbalmer> develCuy, you are full of shit, I think.
[15:06:01] <-- mbalmer (~firstname.lastname@example.org) has left #lua-support ("Leaving...")
## The question is...
How does it happened? How amazing people like mbalmer (and others that worth mention) can go wild and make this? Did they forgot about the basic principles of FOSS & netiquette and decided to troll me? I would like to think that mbalmer got his IRC account hacked by some troll or he was just drunk, but checking the logs his behaviour continued for several days! And not only him, you will find high profile nicknames trolling and citing my nickname: develCuy and #lua-support, for several days: http://mniip.com/irc/log/?channel=~lua (check from Jul 27 to Ago 7 and forward)
## Call for action to ventonegro
Ventonegro is the founder of #lua, he has the last word on defining the policies there since he is the founder. Whatever happened to #lua, I hope that the Lua community fix this, because I'm not the first nor the last victim of this bulling behaviour, and you should notice that there are actual kids (~8 years old!) joining #lua from the game boards, watching and learning from the old ones, unfortunately some are not a good example IMHO.
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Fernando Paredes García
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> ## Call for action to ventonegro
> Ventonegro is the founder of #lua, he has the last word on defining the policies there since he is the founder. Whatever happened to #lua, I hope that the Lua community fix this, because I'm not the first nor the last victim of this bulling behaviour, and you should notice that there are actual kids (~8 years old!) joining #lua from the game boards, watching and learning from the old ones, unfortunately some are not a good example IMHO.
Well, a little bit of histiory: The channel was already there before
me, but I used to be there all the time and therefore lhf recruited me
to help keep the channel running smoothly. Since I moved to CH three
years ago I have not been in IRC much. I gave superpowers to a couple
of people, though. I don't know if they are gone or just don't care
about this allegedly off-topic onslaught.
Am Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:21:22 -0500
schrieb Fernando Paredes García <[hidden email]>:
> Dear Lua community,
> Let me elaborate about this.
Really this is going to be destructive/pointless .. when someone asks
for help in #lua he gets help. Otherwise there might be some
off-topic discussion, but IMO thats only a sign that there are
friendly people interacting together in a healthy community. Dividing
this rather small group will not do good for anyone (Of course this
this also counts for some people from #lua who seemingly become rude).
I am almost 20 Years on IRC and experience tells me that a strict ruled
channel 'on-topic' enforced never ever let to a welcoming friendly
Could you guys please stop this fighting consider how to get together
again and just /ignore the trolls?